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Wednesday, May 21, 2008
Dymo Discpainter: First Impressions
Will a printer that does only one thing save my sanity?
For quite a while I’ve used an Epson R320 printer to label my showreel DVDs, but the end of that era has come. I now own a Dymo Discpainter.
Lately my life has been about getting things out of the way that cost me needless time and effort. About four years ago I ditched Windows XP for a Mac specifically for that reason. I’d run Windows since version 1.0, and although I’d become excellent at fixing it I hadn’t signed on to become a one person unpaid IT department for my business. I’d lose a day every month or two to dealing with some bizarre Windows issue, and over time that became intolerable. I still have occasional issues with Macs but they are nothing like the trouble I had with Windows.
I’m about to do a run of new showreel DVDs. I usually run off 50 and get rid of them all, but this time I’m aiming to launch 100 out into the production void. Every DVD that goes out is a chance for more work, so I make them by the dozen and send them out like candy. Thanks to the miracles of Final Cut Pro and DVD Studio Pro I can cut my own reels and burn them, something I had to pay someone else to do only a few years ago. The Epson R320 has done reasonably well at printing on DVDs all this time but it’s not a fast process: it refuses to print DVDs just as often as it does the deed, and I’ve grown tired of continually trying to figure out just the right way to feed it a DVD blank in order to make it happy. On top of that, I just replaced all the ink cartridges only to discover the black one has a problem that no amount of head cleaning will fix. No point in throwing good money after bad…
So Monday I went to Amazon.com and bought a Dymo Discpainter. I’ve had my eye on this baby for a long time but in the past I couldn’t justify the $250-275 for a printer that did what my Epson could already handle. By 2:30pm Monday afternoon I needed an affordable solution that would keep me from going insane while trying to get my reels out the door, and $250 for a DVD printer didn’t seem so bad after all--as long as it worked. (It was $250 for the printer, $50 for an extra ink cartridge and $21 in overnight shipping.)
It took a while to get the thing running. I had to install the software several times on my Quad Intel Mac desktop before the printer came up as “ready” instead of inexplicably busy. Then I tried to print from the latest version of Smile-on-my-Mac’s Disclabel, my DVD label creation tool of choice, which supposedly supports the Discpainter, but I kept getting “incorrect media” messages with no explanation as to what that meant. I finally fired up Discus, the software that comes with Discpainter, and went about replicating my Disclabel design. I finally did, but it wasn’t a fast process. Discus works well with the Discpainter in that the printer will actually print something that is designed in Discus, but the Discus interface is one of the worst interfaces I’ve ever seen.
An interface only a mother could love.
The Discpainter itself works fairly well. It’s only a three color printer, which I’d read about in advance and caused me a little worry. It’s disappointing because my Epson had six colors and did a fairly nice job on DVDs when it decided to accept them for printing. I do see a bit of dithering on the DVD face when using the Discpainter but it’s not horrible, and I’d say it’s comparable to what the Epson R320 did for me when it worked. The Epson was a little crisper and a little richer, but a lot more aggravating, which is why it’s now sitting in my closet contemplating its fate.
One other thing I’ve noticed about the Discpainter: it can leave faint inkjet lines in a circular pattern, as that’s how it prints: the DVD spins while the print head remains stationary. I haven’t noticed this on text, but it can be apparent in dark photographs under close examination.
I think the Discpainter will work out well. I like that it does only one thing, and it does that reasonably well. Once I formally introduced it to my Mac and they started talking properly it’s worked flawlessly. I don’t like the Discus design interface but I’ve gotten fairly good at using it in the last few hours that I’ve been printing out test DVDs. My hope is that Disclabel figures out how to talk properly to the Discpainter so I can go back to using that program as I’ve gotten quite used to its quirks.
Supposedly the Discpainter is an ink hog, and I’ll find out about that soon enough. I’ve printed probably 20 test DVDs today looking at differently layouts and ink settings. I’ve got a stack of 100 Taiyo Yuden DVD blanks sitting on my desk and I’ll keep track of how many I go through before having to change cartridges.
Maybe I picked up some of my dad’s depression era cheapness, but I just don’t feel like paying others money to do something I can do myself. I’ve been maintaining my own web site since the mid-90s, cutting my own reel since I bought my first Mac, and I see no need to send out for professionally printed labels when I can print on my own DVDs myself--and spend as much time and money as I feel like plowing through blank DVDs testing layouts. The Discpainter isn’t going to put a professional printer out of business any time soon but for my needs, and until something better comes along at the same price point, I’ll make it work. It does one thing reliably, and for me that’s enough right now.
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Jay Rose | 08/19- 05:13 PM
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Mark Christiansen | 08/04- 08:53 AM
I’ve used an Epson R1800 for printing on DVDs (better feed mechanism than low cost Epsons and prints stunning prints to boot). For years, it’s printing beautiful DVDs - much better than Discpainter can - and never a single (not even one) misfeed or misprint including large batches. Only gripe I have is one at time.
The new R1900 Epson, if it uses the same or improved DVD printing, should be even better.
Posted by stephen v2 on 05/21 at 08:41 PM
I have been using an Epson R300 for a couple years.
I use the Taiyo Yuden “Water Shield” discs which product a glossy water proof disc that looks very professional.
Also using a template for Illustrator that I found on the web which lines up the graphic perfectly with the disc in the printer, thus allowing you to use Illustrator to do the design work.
Most people are pretty stunned when they see the result. The discs are around 50ยข each but are worth it.
Posted by on 05/21 at 09:55 PM
Sorry, meant to say “PRODUCE a glossy waterproof disc.”
What’s with not being able to edit your posts?
Posted by on 05/21 at 10:35 PM
Art, I’m with you, I will never use an Epson to print Cds or DVDs again. I have had more trouble with Epsons printing discs than I care to share. Needless to say, I owned two different models and both worked fine in the beginning. Both developed feed tray issues and half the time would not accept discs to be printed unless I hand fed it just so. I also kept having the ink heads dry out and not work (even with plenty of ink left). I read that you are supposed to cut the power to your Epson printer when not in use to prevent the heads from drying out. That did not strike me as being a good design feature.
The DiscPainter on the other hand has been a joy to work with. It prints nice clear labels every time. Since I have owned it I have never had a dried out ink head or malfunction. Nice and easy, just the way I like it. I beg to differ with the commenter above who said the Epson label quality was higher than that of the DiscPainter. Yes Epson uses true black color but that only matters if you are printing currency. I find that I cannot perceive any noticeable difference between a DiscPainter label and an Epson label.
I am a simple person with simple needs: I just want to make disc labels without a hassle. That is why I really like the DiscPainter.
Posted by on 05/28 at 07:17 AM
That is strange that you had a difficult time installing your DiscPainter software on your Mac. My DiscPainter installed the first time with no problems at all.
BTW I was just shown this site from a coworker and it looks really interesting. I will be back.
Posted by on 05/28 at 08:43 AM
How fast is the DiscPainter? I use a pair of Epson R280s that each take 2.5 to 3 min. per disc. Running both of them I can knock out about 40 discs/hr. Thanks!
Posted by Phil Cramer on 06/06 at 11:42 AM
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