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Friday, August 15, 2008
RGB and the F23
Art Adams | 08/15
The more spectra your camera can see, the more it can do.
The Sony F23 sees hues of colors I didn’t think a digital camera could see. Why?
A while back I attended a demonstration of the Sony F23, courtesy of Videofax of San Francisco. All in attendance were dazzled by the subtleties of color that the camera saw. Jeff Cree of BandPro gave a presentation during which he said the reason for this was the improved bandpass filters used on the camera’s prism block.
The diagram below is a simplified version of his explanation. The top graph represents a typical three-chip prism camera; the bottom represents the F23:

The typical three-chip camera prism block uses filters to separate red, green and blue and routes each one to its own individual chip. In the past those filters have passed only narrow bandwidths of each color, resulting in the inability for many video and three-chip HD cameras to accurately reproduce secondary colors (such as orange/yellow, magenta and purple). The F23’s broad bandwidth filters allow the red, green and blue signals to overlap a bit, capturing enough information to improve the reproduction of colors that fall between the three primaries.
A friend, Tim Blackmore, attended NAB this year and ran into a highly esteemed video engineer. Among other things, he asked this person why it had taken so long for someone to invent a broad bandwidth three-chip prism. “Oh, we could have done it 20 years ago,” was the answer. “We just didn’t need to because until now we’ve been working with NTSC, and no one would have noticed the difference. With digital cinema it’s a completely different story.”
I’m counting the days until NTSC disappears.
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Art Adams | 08/30
A directory of my best articles, sorted by topic.
This entry is a guide to my best articles, sorted by topic. Enjoy!
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Jeremiah Karpowicz | 05/18
Learn about what we discovered when we stopped by the Orad booth
Shaun Dail from Orad took the time to tell us about what they had to show and talk about at NAB 2012. He tells us about TD Control, a sports specific MAM system as well as their…
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Jeremiah Karpowicz | 05/11
Petrol Bags unveiled a wide variety of new camera and audio equipment bags at the show
We talked to Sam Thomas from Petrol Bags about a number of their bags that were showcased at NAB 2012. He showed off the Deca Audio Bag (PS614), the Liteporter professional carrier…
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I don’t think the top graph is representative of what a typical 3 chip prism camera does. The spectral sensitivities should overlap and with steep slopes/transitions.
What the F23 might be doing (I don’t know; Sony should publish its spectral sensitivities) is that the transitions are less steep.
2- In practice, color accuracy is difficult to achieve due to metamerism (unless we go with some impractical system that has a lot more than 3 primaries). Metamerism would occur at many points in the signal chain… metamerism from the lighting source, the object illuminated, (lens), sensor, monitor phosphors (or equivalent), and the viewer’s eye. We could potentially reduce metamerism caused by the camera by going with something like the RGBE sensor in Sony’s F828 digital stills camera. But it would be unnecessary because nobody cares, and nobody notices. And our video systems have all sorts or color inaccuracies anyways… this would be one of them: (post houses not doing SD <—> HD conversions according to standards)
http://www.glennchan.info/articles/technical/hd-versus-sd-color-space/hd-versus-sd-color-space.htm
3- You don’t really want your camera to see more spectra. Where metamerism in the camera is unacceptable is when black doesn’t appear black due to sensitivity to infrared. This is noticeable and people complain about it. In 3 chip prism cameras, the camera manufacturer could extend the spectral senstivity into the infrared range to increase the camera’s overall sensitivity to light (and in some applications this might be useful). So this is something to watch out for with 3 chip prism cameras… figure out to what degree the manufacturer has done that.
The camera seeing more spectra isn’t really a good thing.
4- NTSC is not the problem. The problem is that consumer TV manufacturers don’t make color accurate sets (arguably for good reason when TV sets were dim). The color space article touches up the changes in the standard primaries.
The new wide gamut TV sets that are appearing will screw things up more… some TVs will take normal gamut material and oversaturate it (except for memory colors) because otherwise the wide gamut capability would go unused. And this signal processing probably doesn’t obey the principle of constant luminance, causing saturated colors to be too bright and appear neon (the Sony OLED seems to do this when I briefly saw it; could be wrong there though).
A fundamental problem with wide gamut is that consumer TVs will vary in their gamut size. So even if the signal processing were perfect, some TVs will show colors that other TVs aren’t capable of showing.
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Art Adams | 08/30
A directory of my best articles, sorted by topic.
This entry is a guide to my best articles, sorted by topic. Enjoy!
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Jeremiah Karpowicz | 05/18
Learn about what we discovered when we stopped by the Orad booth
Shaun Dail from Orad took the time to tell us about what they had to show and talk about at NAB 2012. He tells us about TD Control, a sports specific MAM system as well as their…
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Jeremiah Karpowicz | 05/11
Petrol Bags unveiled a wide variety of new camera and audio equipment bags at the show
We talked to Sam Thomas from Petrol Bags about a number of their bags that were showcased at NAB 2012. He showed off the Deca Audio Bag (PS614), the Liteporter professional carrier…
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Adam Wilt | 05/08
A few cool things I saw at the show that didn’t fit into any other articles.
NAB is too big a show in too short a time to see more than a fraction of it. I’ve covered a few things in some depth (as have other PVC folks), but there’s plenty more that slips by without proper coverage. Here, I have a few photos…
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