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Thursday, October 02, 2008

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FCP to Avid, a Continuing Saga

Terence Curren | 10/02

They’ve offlined in FCP, and now want to finish in Avid, what to do?

Hit a frequent request on an editing forum today, Robert asks:

“I have a project coming in that was shot on a combination of HDCam and XDCam (EX-1 & EX-3) and edited on a Final Cut Pro system. What type of workflow can I use to get the sequence and media into a PC Symphony Nitris (3.0) for the online edit?”

My immediate answer is the obvious one, use Automatic Duck. Automatic Duck, for those who don’t know, produces several software applications that improves the interchange between certain post production software packages. While it brings a lot of information across, it doesn’t do everything. For example, effects for the most part don’t come across. (No thanks to Avid’s exclusivity mentality).

Then Robert adds:

“If the offline editors converted the EX media into QT files for FCP and no longer had a copy of the original EX files what options would we have? Can those QT files be re-packaged to MXF files or did the actual codec change when they were turned into QT files for FCP?”


Now this complicates matters quite a bit. I can think of three workflows that I would use in descending order.

1: This one you really should finish in FCP.

2: However, if you really want to move to Symphony, the next best option would be to beg Wes Plate for an early copy (it was supposed to have shipped by now) of V4 of Automatic Duck. It WILL carry media over to Avid. (And some more effects information again, no thanks to Avid).

3: Next best option after that would be to either output to tape from FCP or export as an uncompressed QT movie. Bring that in with the original project moved over via Automatic Duck. Then use the reformat subdivide trick to break up your imported QT or recaptured tape. You would then capture all of the HDCAM tape material into Avid. So when you were done, you would have a sequence that was composed of the subdivided material that was XDCAM files, and the new HDCAM material. Now you would have to go through and selectively remove or keep the material you wanted based on quality.

Personally, I would opt for 1 or 2 above.

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The Editing of “Courageous” Part One

Steve Hullfish | 10/14

The off-line edit of a RED feature film

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Last October, I had the rare opportunity to edit a feature film called “Courageous,” which is in theaters now. “Courageous” was the number one new movie the weekend it opened (September…

Give Your Production A Lift With Stackable Apple Boxes

PVC News Staff | 02/10

Digital Juice Releases Industry-Standard Stacking Boxes in 4 Sizes for Film Set & Location Shoots

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Q and A with Bunim/Murray’s Mark Raudonis about their recent Avid switch

Scott Simmons | 02/07

If you haven’t heard they have moved from FCP7 to Media Composer

Back in January news broke that reality television producers Bunim/Murray were switching their post-production facilities from Final Cut Pro to Avid Media Composer. This probably didn’t come as a great shock to anyone who follows post-production as the release of Final Cut Pro X had left many people (especially those…


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Go for option 1. Stay in Final Cut Pro. It has everything you need to finish any project. Avid is fine but (in my professional experience) is no better than FCP, so going through the motions of exporting your project to Avid, then having to dub your media to tape (or export to an Avid-friendly media file) is a complete and total waste of time. Not to mention the fact that unnecessarily exporting digital media from one file format to another has it’s inherent risks that can result in reduced image quality.

I know some folks will argue with me, but my experience has shown me that Final Cut Pro is just as capable as Avid in every way.

Posted by Easy Street  on  02/15  at  01:28 PM


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