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More random, mindless speculation about the new Final Cut Pro

Scott Simmons | 03/13

Even I admit, this is way too many words written about something we know virtually nothing about (though I hope there’s some food for thought here).

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Here we are a couple of weeks past what is just slightly more than a rumor about the next version of Apple’s Final Cut Pro. Let’s call it FCPx as someone on Twitter stated and not FCP Awesome as was tweeted by another. I like FCPx for the mindless speculation. There has been more digital ink spilled over so little information concerning FCPx than pretty much anything besides the next great Canon DSLR or Obamacare. I’m about to add a bit more.

Some of that rumor/speculation has hinted that FCPx might indeed be more iMovie like, doing away with things like the Viewer/Canvas 2-screen view and replacing the long standing NLE tradition of 3-point editing. As a matter of sacrifice for the readers of the world, I spent the weekend editing home movies in iMovie ‘09 just in case FCPx takes a rather iMovie like turn.

This wasn’t my first time in iMovie. When the greatly revamped iMovie ‘09 hit the market I tried it out on several home movie edits and cast it aside in frustration. Of course professional editors who value their keyboard-centric speed aren’t the iMovie target as its mouse-centric way of working and imprecise editing tools make it very frustrating. But it was sold as a fast and easy editing tool so I thought it was worth a try. Two years later I revisited. In light of all the FCPx non-news that’s made the web recently, this exercise made me look at iMovie in a different way.

If FCPx is built off a modern architecture then it stands to reason that Apple is looking toward their other more modern video editing applications for either influence or technology. Philip Hodgetts has speculated in quite a bit of detail about how FCPx can’t be built off Quicktime as we know it so I won’t repeat details about the innards of Quicktime and video processing on a Mac as he does a splendid job. This is partly because I don’t really understand all the techno-mumo-jumbo about this architecture, partly because I don’t care. If my iPhone can rock a native H.264 edit without breaking a sweat, why can’t FCP? (Whether you should edit native H.264 or not is another debate entirely) If iMovie can be rendering something in the background why can’t FCP? And why do both of Apple’s photo applications (not to mention FCP’s blood rival Adobe Premiere Pro) have face recognition / detection but not FCP? The answer is that FCP 7 is old. It just hasn’t been updated to do all this cool stuff and probably can’t since it lives in a 32-bit world on very old source code.

Enter (someday) FCPx. This modern NLE, when it ships, will take its place as probably the most modern NLE on the market with clean, 64-bit native source code that is brand new and should, in theory, lay the groundwork for where we go from this point forward in Apple-based post-production. If you were writing a brand new editing application wouldn’t you look at where we are sitting, right in the middle of the digital acquisition revolution, the platform independent delivery choices, the finally affordable world of digital filmmaking and train your app accordingly?

The 10%ers

This beg the question of exactly what does an editor need in a modern NLE. To bring up Philip Hodgetts again (he’s our community’s current fomenter and forward thinker when it comes to the future of post-production), he has spurred some discussion on Twitter recently that maybe only about 10% of the current FCP installed base are working, professional editors at a certain “level” in the post-production business and Apple would be silly to tailor FCPx to such a small part of FCP’s overall market. I’m generalizing a bit from a number of Twitter discussions that I’ve seen over the last few weeks but that’s the basic idea as I understood it. Out of FCP’s installed base, 90% of those working are very much unlike the other 10%. I think of that 10% as feature film and network television editors. But I know an awful lot of working, professional editors who are power users with this application and who have never cut a single frame of either movies or tv. The question: Is about Apple tailoring all (or even part) of FCPx to that 10%?

I personally feel that a toolset that benefits a feature film editor can benefit most other editors as well. Even if that 90% of FCP editors are cutting corporate, event, worship, commercial, local and/or wedding programs, things like easy i/o, good media management and a fast cutting workflow will benefit them as well.

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Will FCPx do away with the Viewer window, or 3-point editing entirely?

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The Editing of “Courageous” Part One

Steve Hullfish | 10/14

The off-line edit of a RED feature film

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Last October, I had the rare opportunity to edit a feature film called “Courageous,” which is in theaters now. “Courageous” was the number one new movie the weekend it opened (September…

Final Cut Pro X Multicam Editing webinar now available on-demand

Scott Simmons | 05/15

Plus a little screencast in this blog post on a topic we didn’t get to cover.

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Scott Simmons | 05/11

These are a few of the things that I found myself searching for as I’ve been moving over to Premiere Pro CS6 as a FCP 7 replacement

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Adobe is making a big play for Final Cut Pro users with their CS6 release of Premiere Pro. It’s vastly improved over the Premiere Pro of old and is a lot like Final…


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I’d love the idea of the capture utility to be completely separate from FCP. Maybe Compressor could evolve to be the media manager, injest, export, browser, rough trimming. It could be called Media Assistant and run as an app to handle the Non-Editing work of Editing. If it could assist in round tripping projects from color, soundtrack, motion in a nodal way that would be great too.

It could establish a nodal interface to track the changes to a project through changes in the Pro Apps.

Posted by erikcantu  on  03/14  at  07:13 AM


I agree…this “10%” argument doesn’t hold water.

So if only 10% of people who used Media Composer, say if it was cheaper like FCP, were working professionals, Avid should change it to fit their needs?  The needs of the masses?  That’s one of the stupidest arguments I have ever heard.  The job is to make the most professional application out there, that fits the needs of the professional. If it doesn’t, it cannot be called professional software.  If you cater to the needs of the masses, many of whom are NOT professional, then they need to make it a non-pro app.  But not call it Final Cut PRO.  If they do this, they are brain dead halfwits. 

So what if the majority of FCP users aren’t in the professional editing realm?  Or don’t use tape.  What does that have to do with ANYTHING?  Most of the Avid systems don’t capture or output to tape…only a few do.  Most are used as offline editing machines…does that mean that they should do away with tape capture/output?  No, that would be a stupid thing to do.  I don’t get the mindset of catering to the masses.  That’s almost like catering to the lowest common denominator.

That is what gets us watered down products.  Watered down movies, TV shows, applications…trying to make it appeal to everyone.  Instead of trying to make a QUALITY show, movie, product…things are focus grouped and mass appealed.  And that is destroying creativity, destroying the art of films.  Everything is marketted to everyone, instead of aiming high and making something the best it can be, and seeing who’ll come see it, use it.

Only 10% of the people who drive an automatic use the low gears…2, 1…etc.  So, should it be removed because the MASSES don’t use it?  Why have it if only 10% of the people use it.  BECAUSE, they use it for a good reason.  Snow or ice on the road, steep hills.  For very valid reasons.  Remove it and they are stuck…or will crash.  Or will buy the car that suits their needs. 

If Avid did this, there would be a HUGE outcry.  Why is it different if FCP does it?  Oh, because only 10% of the users use that? 

Adobe is getting more respect BECAUSE it is more feature rich and does what the professionals need.  Including capture from and output to tape, working with more third party capture hardware…that has earned it more respect, and in turn, more users. 

You cater to the professionals, give them what they need, because when people find out “Hey, the Coen brothers edited their last 4 films on FCP,” or “Walter Murch cut 3 films on FCP,” “FCP used to cut THE CLOSER?” they think, “cool!  I want the software that professionals are using.”  It doesn’t matter how good it is, or if it does exactly what they need and ONLY what they need.  It will fail.  Just look at Media 100 for an example. 

The reasoning is wrong.  Flat out wrong.

Yes, I know that the lower end mac book pros lost the Express34 slot for the same reason…let’s not go there.

Posted by Shane_Ross  on  03/14  at  09:15 AM


First off, I think that 10% number is ridiculous.  Granted, I work in video production, but easily 99% of the editors I know are FCP users (I don’t do much TV or film work), and I’d put 90% of those editors into the ‘Pro’ user demographic.  So if there’s a 10% to be designated, I think it’s casual users, not pro users.

That said, the one major feature that this article doesn’t mention and that I desperately wish Apple would add to this major revision of FCP is the ability to set your scratch disk by project.  I work off many, many external drives, and having a central scratch disk simply isn’t feasible.  So having each project know exactly where its scratch disk when I open it rather than me constantly having to reset it would be a godsend.  Other than that, I just really, really hope they don’t completely wreck the interface just for the sake of change (as frankly they did with iMovie…I have yet to meet anyone who thinks that ‘09 and later is a better interface than HD).

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Good points all.

@Jack: the current FCP way of handling scratch disks is very cumbersome. I think that a revision of scratch disks would go hand in hand with better media management. And a project level setting of them would be very nice.

Posted by Scott Simmons  on  03/15  at  07:47 AM


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Last October, I had the rare opportunity to edit a feature film called “Courageous,” which is in theaters now. “Courageous” was the number one new movie the weekend it opened (September…

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