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Saturday, June 20, 2009

Filed under: *VIDEO*CamerasWeb Video

The iPhone 3G S can’t really EDIT video!

Scott Simmons | 06/20

But it can TRIM it and shoot some fun stuff to boot

I wanted so see how iPhone video would re-compress for the web so here’s a clip, slapped together in FCP, compressed with Compressor. The first is a few shots cut to some music. A lot of this footage is hard on a compression codec with movement, shooting into trees and the sun so this is about the most blocky video you might expect out of the iPhone. Of course the more compression you put on a clip the more blocks you will see. And not to mention these clips are compressed to H264 once upon shooting and then were compressed again from Compressor for the web:

Here’s the same cut just with some very subtle color correction on a few shots and then Magic Bullet Looks on others:

 

What does that video look like straight out of the phone? Here’s the raw footage from a couple of the shots.

This is the first shot in the edit above:

 

This is the light pole shot that changes from portrait to landscape in the edit:

 

And finally one more shot against the rock wall:

 

That quality isn’t too bad. I’m very happy to have that video capture capability in my cell phone. Now if they just enable the 720p capture ability that is apparently there within the chip then that will be even better. Maybe that’s coming in iPhone os 4.0.

 

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Heh! Now that I am watching back that music video, I notice that Nokia does a very good job on making sure that exposure doesn’t jump abruptly! Some of these shots in the video with other phones, would probably look terrible because of the automatic exposure changes. :o

Posted by Eugenia  on  06/20  at  06:14 PM


You’re right - it’s trimming, not editing. That’s a distinction that a lot of people don’t understand. I once applied for an “editing” job but it wasn’t until I got to the interview that I realized that all they wanted me to do was trim clips for 10% of the time and then do paperwork for the other 90%!

Posted by Jon Chappell  on  06/21  at  03:42 AM


So Jon ... are you going to write us an iPhone video editing app?

Posted by Scott Simmons  on  06/21  at  07:09 AM


Perhaps… wait and see wink

Posted by Jon Chappell  on  06/21  at  09:22 AM


It is not easy—if possible at all—to write a video editing app on the iPhone (or any other smartphone in the market today—including Google’s Android). To do that you need hooks to the media API/codecs that are not public, and you need to allocate a lot of resources in a way that the phone won’t let you do that.

And I am just talking about the basic of the operations: trim, cut, put together, add an music track, export. If you just want to “fake it”, like Apple does right now, sure, it’s possible. But if you want to create something basic and yet useful, you would need to start working for Apple and not as a third party developer, in order to get access to APIs and libraries that are not public.

Now, you are probably asking “and how do you know that?”. Let’s just say that I have already discussed the possibilities with developers who have expressed an interest for such a mobile video editing project.

I am not saying that future versions of the various OS/SDKs won’t allow for such a complex project, but for now, it’s kind of a pipe dream. Video editing apps are more complex than they seem, and this is why most editors are so easy to crash (I am not pointing fingers, they ALL crash easily), and the Linux community after almost 20 years still hasn’t have a single free editor that’s actually truly useful and doesn’t crash every 3 minutes. There are those who say that writing a good video editing app is more complex than recreating a project like Firefox…

Posted by Eugenia  on  06/21  at  01:28 PM


Perhaps I should have clarified that I have no intention whatsoever of making an iPhone video editing application…

Posted by Jon Chappell  on  06/21  at  02:15 PM


Yea I don’t know if there will ever be any iPhone editing apps or not nor do I know how difficult or easy it would be to create one. That’s some interesting insight Eugenia, thanks for the comment.

Will all the extremely wide variety of apps available right now though I would bet a pretty penny that someone will at least come up with a way to take the trimmed video clips that sit on your phone and string them together in a particular order. That would be the first step. If a 3rd party app can access photos then I’m sure they could also access video clips sitting on the phone right? I think that simple kind of app will be coming around soon.

Posted by Scott Simmons  on  06/21  at  03:34 PM


I downloaded the Family Guy app today from the iTunes App store.  Being a fan, I couldn’t resist.  It consists of a bunch of clips arranged in various order.  What’s interesting however, is that you can create your own order of clips to be shown.  You’re basically editing on the iPhone.

The top row is a list of all the clips to choose from, and the bottom row is your timeline that you can then arrange, and rearrange.  Imagine taking the current ability of the iPhone, to shoot and trim video clips.  Then add this functionality that one app already has.  You now have a point and shoot, and editing device all in one.  Upload to your favorite news, Facebook, and likely twitter, and what you’re saying is real with editing. 

It’s coming…be prepared.

Posted by .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)  on  06/22  at  10:27 AM


A better idea for embedding multiple Quicktime movies in the same page is to use single frame movies as poster frames.

This way, your viewers’ browsers don’t begin downloading all the movies at once, they can choose and click to start the movie playing (easier on your server too grin.

DV Kitchen encodes, uploads, and writes all the code for you so all you have to do is copy and paste it into your Expression Engine post.

The movie on this page demonstrates both default poster frame and custom poster frame code generation:

http://www.dvcreators.net/dv-kitchen-20/

Posted by Josh Mellicker from DVcreators.net  on  06/23  at  06:03 PM


Josh, I like that. Unfortunately I don’t run how all this is setup but maybe the powers-that-be will check it out. Thanks for the link.

Posted by Scott Simmons  on  06/23  at  06:34 PM


Hi Scott, oops, I forgot to mention you can also republish already uploaded clips in a player of your choice - QT with poster frame, or Flash player with many skin choices.

Posted by Josh Mellicker from DVcreators.net  on  06/23  at  06:39 PM


That song is awesome! I Googled the lyrics and found The Features. Thanks for sharing. Interesting post as well.

Posted by Eric Granata  on  06/26  at  12:01 PM


Eric, check out their latest disc Some Kind of Salvation ... by far my favorite release of last year.

Posted by Scott Simmons  on  06/26  at  12:46 PM


FYI, here is a Pro Video Coalition review of DV Kitchen by Alan Tepper:

http://provideocoalition.com/index.php/atepper/dvkitchen_has_become_a_must_have_video_encoding_publishing_tool/

Posted by Josh Mellicker from DVcreators.net  on  06/26  at  05:09 PM


iPhone video is nice to have, but can I make a living with it?

Posted by DanConklin  on  07/01  at  03:19 PM


@ Intervention Center:

You are correct. We covered one of them recently:

http://provideocoalition.com/index.php/ssimmons/story/reeldirector_lets_the_iphone_3gs_really_edit_video1/

Are you aware of others? If so what are they? Thanks.

Posted by Scott Simmons  on  11/16  at  09:56 AM


@ Scott - I was also referring to ReelDirector which also happened to be in the link you gave.  I use this to tweak some videos I take from my iPhone.  ReelDirector is a handy and reliable tool in my book as well.

Posted by GerryG  on  11/23  at  12:08 PM


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