Jen McGowan has had the good fortune to be a director of both feature films and television. From breakout indie hits at festivals like SXSW, to mainstream TV shows like Jordan Peele’s “The Twilight Zone” or “Star Trek: Discovery,” Jen has insights into both aspects of the directing biz. In this episode of the show, Ron has a long and in-depth conversation with her about how she got into the biz, working with a spouse, her processes, what her habits are to stay in shape (physically and creatively), and the state of working in the biz in this current environment. If you want to be a director in this business, this is a must-listen.

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Crossing the 180 theme music “Gettin’ Paid, Part II” by Alec’s Band (CC BY) and curated from FreeMusicArchive.org.